but 80 million people finally got an unfiltered look at mitt romney, and they liked what they saw. and i think you'll see credible polls this week showing significant movement in the swing states and a much closer race. that's the big factor right now. >> let me put this in a different format, because we all sit in washington and get all these numbers. the average american goes outside and says, ok, 600,000 part-time jobs, 114,000 full-time jobs. gasoline the highest in history. do i feel better? or in the real world, can my cousin still not find work? in the real world, is every small business in my neighborhood still stressed? and i think the reason obama has never been able to pull away, even when romney had two pretty bad weeks, is that in the end there's this rubber band effect that they go, well, i'd almost like to give him another shot, but this is really frightening and really painful. >> well, nobody is ever going to pull away in this political system. so that's never going to happen. we always -- >> no, i disagree. i think he could have. if there was a moment to pull away